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Contents 1 2024 :-) 2 експорт в жедком 3 False records 4 2025 :-) 5 Tag / Тег 6 Discussions in waiting 7 Riurikids / Places 8 Новий пароль 9 Bagration 10 Об"єднання двох користувачів 11 SPF 12 Stats

[edit] 2024 :-)

Best wishes to the families of Rodovid users. З найкращими побажаннями родинам користувачів Родовід. Dn Gov (d) 04:00, 2 January 2024 (EET)

•  :) --Baya 10:29, 2 January 2024 (EET)

[edit] експорт в жедком

Добрий день, шановний,Baya! З цим ресурсом працюю давно. Дуже багато вклав часу і зусиль(на мій погляд) у розвиток свого родоводу на цій платформі. У Вас в планах було створення можливості переносити дані з «Родовід» у Gedcom. Час невпинно спливає, пройшло багато років, але цього ,на жаль, не сталось. Прогрес на місці не стоїть , з‘явились люди з далекої родини, що створили родоводи на інших генеалогічних сайтах, з більшим функціоналом. Є бажання об‘єднати, але немає такої можливості. Готовий заплатити за перенесення своїх всіх даних в Gedcom. Напевно , знайдеться ще немало таких,як я , це зробити! Чи є імовірність , що Ваша команда таки зробить крок на зустріч? Що для цього потрібно? З повагою, Форнальчик Ігор.

• Зараз найпростіше буде встановити формат редагування "жедком" в налаштуваннях корситувача, а потім скритпом скачати все дерево по лінках --Baya 08:29, 9 August 2024 (EEST)

[edit] False records

On German Rodovid, user MmAaRrIiAa created in 2017 a few dozens of completely invented records.
User CharlesF marked them all on 7 August with the warning "Zu löschen / To delete". But the German admins are inactive since years. Because I learned German, if you give me sysop rights, I could delete these records (and change one or two system messages). Dn Gov (d) 01:00, 9 August 2024 (EEST)

• done --Baya 08:26, 9 August 2024 (EEST)

Danke schön / Thank you! Dn Gov (d) 08:00, 10 August 2024 (EEST)

[edit] 2025 :-)

Best possible year to you and your family. Найкращого року вам і вашій родині. Dn Gov (d) 00:00, 2 January 2025 (EET)

• Thank you, my best wishes to you ) --Baya 17:28, 21 January 2025 (EET)

[edit] Tag / Тег

Hello
User Mirmax send an e-mail in Ukrainian saying he had noticed a small bug :
When working on a record and adding for example parents, if he clicks on the tag "hypothesis" (in order to specify that the filiation is not sure), the tag is not added when the new record is created and he has to modify the page later to add the precision.
I confirmed the facts : i created a page labelled with the tag "hypothesis", but the precision did not appear. The line of comment for the creation of the page does include the ":y" tag (<children>1580765:y</children>) but the xml code of the record does not (<children>1580765</children>). Maybe it is linked with the problem of colon that you solved on 4 December 2023.

Привіт

Користувач Mirmax надсилає електронний лист українською мовою, в якому повідомляє, що помітив невелику помилку:

Під час роботи над записом і додавання, наприклад, батьків, якщо він натискає на тег «гіпотеза» (щоб вказати, що походження не впевнене), тег не додається під час створення нового запису, і йому потрібно змінити сторінку пізніше, щоб додати точність.

Я підтвердив факти: я створив сторінку з тегом "гіпотеза", але точність не з'явилася. Рядок коментаря для створення сторінки містить тег «:y» (<children>1580765:y</children>), але код xml запису не містить (<children>1580765</children>).

Можливо, це пов’язано з проблемою двокрапки, яку ви вирішили 4 грудня 2023 року.

Dn Gov (d) 00:00, 26 January 2025 (EET)

• thank you, will make a look this week --Baya 13:50, 27 January 2025 (EET)

[edit] Discussions in waiting

Hello
The admins for Rodovid_En are not answering on their talk page (Tesson since November, EvansKnight since January). Could I have sysop rights for that localisation? Dn Gov (d) 06:00, 20 March 2025 (EET)

• Done --Baya 21:41, 20 March 2025 (EET)

Thank you! Dn Gov (d) 00:00, 21 March 2025 (EET)

[edit] Riurikids / Places

Hello
I don't understand what Rs is doing sometimes in the Ukrainian localisation. Rimsky-Korsakoff said on her talk page that Rs was again using places with the precision "Gorod" in dozens of pages like this one or here and there, with editing disputes on pages like this one.
I left messages on his talk page in February about lineage names (Bagration, Riurikids) and in March about places (leading to your answer) but I dont think he is listening. Or the automatic translation into Ukrainian that I used is very bad. Dn Gov (d) 04:00, 30 March 2025 (EEST)

Hello, sorry for delay. I missed your message in some way. I have written some words to Rs. Lets see. --Baya 15:49, 21 April 2025 (EEST)

OK. Good Easter to you all (with delay too) ! Dn Gov (d) 23:00, 21 April 2025 (EEST)

• Hi, I see that it is not very simple case... We are going to initiate some changes in RD at all. Will see. --Baya 19:31, 28 April 2025 (EEST)

A question with an indirect link to Rs : do you know why the syntax of the titles on Wikipedia is not the same between "Французьке королівство" and "Королівство Англія" (a difference not found in other languages) ? --Dn Gov (d) 01:00, 29 April 2025 (EEST)

• I think different people initiated that pages. In Ukrainian there are no difference between these forms.
  On the one hand I agree with Rs that his variant is more melodical and for me beautiful. But on the other hand from technical reason I suggest do not use extra words in the places names. France is France. Kyiv is Kyiv. The question is how to show that at some time people admire it in different ways - realm, country, republic or village, town, city, megapolis. For me places are like people - and maybe to resolve this discussion the genealogy procedure should be applied to places as well. --Baya 09:29, 2 May 2025 (EEST)

Do you mean creating a twin database, a kind of "Городовід", where every locality would have a unique number? Would users have to enter places in family trees by searching with their number like for persons? Dn Gov (d) 07:00, 4 May 2025 (EEST)

• basically yes. --Baya 10:20, 7 May 2025 (EEST)

That would be a rational system, in the months / years to come.

Maybe a detail could also be changed in full trees, if you have some time. On these pages, pointing on a person displays extra details but not the clan/lineage. And in large trees, especially for noble families, it is not always easy to go to the bottom of the page in order to identify the lineage by color.

So maybe these mini-windows could also display the lineage between square brackets after the name (if they are not identical) like it is the case in the page listing the new records. Dn Gov (d) 07:00, 8 May 2025 (EEST)

[edit] Новий пароль

A Ukrainian user who activated her account yesterday noticed that the system message Newpassword is shown on screen as "Новий пароль&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp ". --Dn Gov (d) 09:00, 20 May 2025 (EEST)

• https://uk.rodovid.org/wk?title=MediaWiki%3ANewpassword&diff=527497&oldid=28775 --Baya 14:50, 20 May 2025 (EEST)

Thank you. Dn Gov (d) 23:00, 20 May 2025 (EEST)

[edit] Bagration

Hello again.
Can you restore the page ru:Person:268461 (in Russian). It was deleted because it was supposed to be a duplicate, but in reality it was the other record that was a duplicate. Thank you in advance. Dn Gov (d) 09:00, 31 May 2025 (EEST)

• I have restored 2 deleted versions. The page is already recreated. You can compare the last deleted state and the current one here https://ru.rodovid.org/wk?title=%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%8C%3A268461&diff=2232243&oldid=562745 --Baya 19:03, 2 June 2025 (EEST)

Can you also restore the page ru:Запись:347613 ?
It is for the same reason : the original page for prince Teimuraz was probably considered a duplicate and deleted. Dn Gov (d) 09:00, 20 June 2025 (EEST)

• restored --Baya 16:32, 20 June 2025 (EEST)

Thank you. Dn Gov (d) 01:00, 21 June 2025 (EEST)

[edit] Об"єднання двох користувачів

Добрий день,Ярославе! Колись я був кристувачем 62.221.52.66, зараз я користувач Ihor. Чи можливо об"єднати всі записи зроблені мною за всі роки, або надати мені можливість видалити деякі записи,зроблені мною 62.221.52.66 ?

Доброго дня, Ігоре,

нажаль, це не можливо зараз. Додайте в записи, що потрібно видалити шаблон {{delete|}} --Baya 19:02, 14 June 2025 (EEST)

[edit] SPF

Good news. Registrations will be more stable and I presume it will also work for Hotmail / Outlook. Dn Gov (d) 01:00, 25 July 2025 (EEST)

• yeap, I think so ;) --Baya 16:55, 25 July 2025 (EEST)

[edit] Stats

If I understand the data, the weight of the images is four times the weight of the records.
Does it mean that the name of the site is in fact Rodvoid / Родѵоід? Dn Gov (d) 01:00, 1 August 2025 (EEST)

•  :) you see, search is disabled. If it will be enabled - db size will be bigger, maybe up to 50%. so it's approx the same ;). But, generally speaking, images are always take more space than data itself. --Baya 09:04, 1 August 2025 (EEST)