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[edit] Categories

Hi to you too. Congratulations on creating the one and only category on Rodovid EN. Are they discouraged, or is it just that the main users are unaware of their value?? Robin Patterson 10:43, 4 April 2006 (EEST)

I don't think most users are aware categories can be placed in the notes field; I only knew because Baya had linked to the category at the Abraham Lincoln page. I merely created the page and added it to pages for both Bush presidents and the George Washington page (which I was working on at the time). It's not possible that they could be discouraged, as Baya was the one who suggested the category.

Categories do have a few problems, though, among them the following:

• inability to sort by set text: in a regular wikipage, one can add a link of the form [[Category:Presidents of the United States|Lincoln, Abraham]] and it will appear under L at the category page--but in these categories, because of the way the pages are set up, it sorts under the letter but displays incorrectly: a glance at the page reveals that Mr. Lincoln is sorted under L, but the letter used to sort is A. Baya can surely help with this.
• The automatic addition of a language prefix to the link causes other languages to have the text [[en:Category:Presidents of the United States]], resulting in an interlanguage link. Baya can help address this as well.

Thanks, Wikiacc (?) _{en (?) | de (?)} 22:28, 4 April 2006 (EEST)

[edit] Please, don't change my record in EN db !

Hi Wiki!

You changed my record en:John Beaufort (Beaufort, b. 1371 d. 1410) today in ENGLISH db of rodovid.... Please, don't change my record, because each language has one database (DB) and my NEW, ACTUAL and CURRENT record is in PT db !

Do you don't see an alert in top of EDIT page... that this person has an other version most recent... ???

Thanks! Morais 02:44, 8 April 2006 (EEST)

• I think if record exists in native language it must be deleted from other localisation if it not translated (As in current situation). --Baya 10:22, 8 April 2006 (EEST)

• Ahhhh.... OK! But when I delete record in English db I'm not deleting PERSON totally, only from DB in use, is it ? I don't deleted because I think command delete will be affect ALL db... :-) Thanks! Morais 20:56, 8 April 2006 (EEST)

I didn't understand when I made the edit (the message was a bit unclear) but it seems you and Baya have sorted out the problem. Thanks. Wikiacc (?) _{en (?) | de (?)} 20:53, 16 April 2006 (EEST)

[edit] places

Hi, don't spend your time for category of places. I will recode Place pages and they will show included places and people with events in this place like clan page. --Baya 23:00, 20 June 2007 (EEST)

Now you tell me. :-P Should I delete the categories or leave them as they are until you recode them? Wikiacc (talk) 04:02, 22 June 2007 (EEST)

• As you want :) I think that it can be deleted after... --Baya 10:22, 22 June 2007 (EEST)

[edit] Delete

Hello, could you please delete all the pages I have created? I have privacy issues. Thank you. Andrevan 12:12, 26 July 2007 (EEST)

[edit] About Delano's

hi Wikiacc, for more information about Delano Family take a look at Delano Kinred, wikipedia:Delano family, wikipedia:Richard Warren and wikipedia:Francis Cooke pages.

I think that it is necessary to create a new category, may be... like Pilgrims or Mayflower passengers, not yet I know as it is the most correct name. what do you think about this? regards--R0MAN0 23:13, 1 October 2007 (EEST)

[edit] about Babel X user language

• "Commons:Babel" is in English. "Commons:Babel pt" is translated to Portuguese and viewed in PT localization ! How translate User Language to Localization PT ? Use same name of page ? If I translate "user language" to portuguese in PT preferences the English/original version will be keep ??? Thanks. Morais 21:44, 28 April 2008 (EEST)

• • It would be easier to translate Rd Engine:Babel here to a new page, Rd Engine:Babel pt, and have users use {{User language}} at Engine. All the templates are already here, and there are a lot of them, so it would be very time-consuming to copy them all. --Wikiacc (≈) 00:50, 4 May 2008 (EEST)

• Hi! I'm replacing Babel by User Language at PT Localization...
  WHY I need to copy each language template to local PT localization... if their contents are the same for all localizations ? To simplify process, what can you do to everyone reuse same TEMPLATES (/pt, /en, /fr, etc...) in ALL localizations ? Exists an option to "include" code from other localization, as engine ? Or can move these pages to other NAMESPACE common to all languages ? Thanks. Morais 03:37, 28 November 2008 (EET)

• It would be easier to tell everyone on PT to link to their profiles on Engine and use the templates on Engine instead. --Wikiacc (≈) 04:24, 29 November 2008 (EET)

[edit] Welcome to fr

Bonjour, et bienvenue sur Rodovid! L'acceuil est un peu spartiate, m'enfin! OldLion 17 mai 2008 à 10:04 (EEST)

[edit] Thank you from Almoustine

I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your work on helping me to clean up the duplicate records for Ancient Persia. Duplicate records are such a pest, but the very fact that we are committed to taking the time to do it is what differentiates this database from all the others. BTW... I am getting a strange error whenever I try to log in to rodovid.org. Maybe you can help me. Have you ever seen this error before? Do I need to refer it to Baya?

Warning: fopen(/usr/home/rodovid/www/serialized/messages-rd_en-wiki_) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /usr/home/rodovid/www/includes/MessageCache.php on line 103

Almoustine 20:50, 24 May 2008 (EEST)

Another question with regard to duplicate lineages...Perhaps you could post the category and template for duplication marking on the main page discussion so that others entering information can mark duplicate entries when they encounter them. I am sure that I will be aiding you in your efforts to remove duplicate lineages as soon as I am finished entering my mother's generations and start on the Surname/Clan Reference guide. Almoustine 17:49, 25 May 2008 (EEST)

[edit] Huge Problem noticed with French Kings

Hello, thanks for the tips on the clean up protocol... I will do better. BTW why did all of the information on the French kings in the EN database(from Merovek) get overwritten by newer versions from the portuguese?. Way inconvenient because the newer versions are not in English. Was this a mistake or part of a global import or change...If the later I have concerns since a lot of valuable family links are now obscured by the newer record information Almoustine 02:04, 9 June 2008 (EEST)

A question about yoru Bot program. Can it perform global lineage update in the EN database?: We need to have all the following lineage designations Mérovingiens Merovíngios Merovek

Wherever they occur in the English database, changed to Merovec. Almoustine 03:35, 9 June 2008 (EEST)

I can't find any examples of this overwriting, could you provide some? Thanks, Wikiacc (≈) 22:10, 9 June 2008 (EEST)

It wasnt so much overwriting as it was with a problem of someone unlinking an earlier localized record and linking to newer records in an alternate language DB and pulling them in to the English DB. I found the older records again but it took some sleuthing to do so. there is a lot of duplication removal efforts to be performed in the genealogy of the Frankish Kings. BTW Basina was the wife of Basinus (Basin) who left him for Childeric I. Basina was a Thuringii title equating to Princess. Her actual name was Menia. I have left them linked in you might want to start there. Almoustine 22:32, 11 June 2008 (EEST)

OK. I haven't been able to tell who is doing this. I figured out what the deal was with Basina/Menia after researching it a bit on Wikipedia, but thanks for the clarification. There seem to be some four or five records for her alone... --Wikiacc (≈) 22:51, 11 June 2008 (EEST)

[edit] Issues with the lineage of Henry the Fowler

Good Morning :) I am sure you have run into the virtual Gordion Knot associated with en:Person:90046. I have marked the appropriate original and the duplicates but left everything linked in so far. I have made every attempt to delete those duplicates that I may have contributed, but there remain several that I cannot delete. Could you double check those entries and we could work together to get this lineage streamlined and linked in properly. I fret about this one in particular just because Henry Fowler is a gateway ancestor for virtually every known European royal lineage. Thanks in advance Almoustine 18:44, 13 July 2008 (EEST)

It all seems to be sorted out, and I have deleted all the duplicates I've found. There might be a few problems lurking around but it seems that the problems have been dealt with. --Wikiacc (≈) 00:19, 15 July 2008 (EEST)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the pointers on things to work on for Wikitree! Much appreciated.

Rccarman 05:41, 5 October 2008 (EEST)

[edit] Adoption...

Wikiacc, you changed parents of pt:Person:45934, adding LINKED TO on ADOPTION EVENT... but the TREE show only 1 LINE/draw with same color to both parents ! :-( This person wasn't selected on ADOPTION because tree/lines not preparated to show other line/color for adoption... Are you verifing and adjusting TREEs with this event (ADOP) or can I revert your change ? Thanks. Morais 10:01, 7 October 2008 (EEST)

I didn't change the parents at all, so the tree did not change. The tree does not consider <linkedto>, it only looks at parents listed in <parents>. The tree looks exactly the same as it did before the change... --Wikiacc (≈) 01:31, 8 October 2008 (EEST)

• Yes, you're correct ! :-O So sorry ! :-( Morais 06:56, 8 October 2008 (EEST)

[edit] 2 misc questions

Hi again...

Any idea why the [[Image:Stop_X.png|left|35px|W]] construct fails to load the specified image when placed in a page on Wikitree?

And where is the URL blacklist for Wikitree? Assuming there is one, though I've not found evidence of such, how do new entries get added to it? Rccarman 07:42, 14 October 2008 (EEST)

[edit] ein paar Probleme

Hallo ! Wie du es gesehen hast, haben wir einige Probleme mit einer Mitgliederin aus Tunesien, User talk:FAÏZA ZOUAOUI. Kannst du mir erklären, warum du Zettel "zerstört" hast, und nicht einfach "geleert" ? Jeder Zettel hat eine Nummer. Wenn der Zettel wieder "sauber" wird, kann er wieder benutzt werden, nicht ? Was passiert jetzt mit den "zerstörten" Zetteln/Nummern ? Können sie später wieder benutzt werden ? Ich finde es einfach, viel paraktischer (ou logischer) die falschen (oder Doppel-) Zettel zu leeren. Was meinst du ? Amicalement - Marc ROUSSEL - --Markus3 09:15, 3 November 2008 (EET)

Hello! As you have seen, we have a few problems with a user from Tunisia, User talk:FAÏZA ZOUAOUI. Can you clear up for me why you deleted records, and not simply emptied them? Every record has a number. When a record again is "clean", it can again become used, can it not? What happened now with the deleted records/numbers? Can they later be used again? I find it easy, much more practical (and logical) to empty the bad (or duplicate) records. What is your opinion? Translation by Wikiacc.

Hallo Marc! Ich habe die Probleme mit Faïza Zouaoui gesehen. Sie hat für einen Person 2 oder 3 Zetten machen...in Englisch-Rodovid haben wir eine Methode (en:Help:Merging): Der Zettel, der seine Nummer größer ist, wird zerstören. Nach er zerstört wird, er soll nicht wieder benutzt werden. Es ist sehr wichtig, dass es für EIN Nummer nur EIN Person gibt. (Ich kann auf Englisch besser als Deutsch darüber diskutieren.) Auch zählt ein geleerter Zettel in en:Rodovid Statistics, und ein zerstörter Zettle zählt nicht. Ich habe fast alle Doppel-Zetteln zerstört, und ich habe die Methode geschrieben...es ist besser, wenn Doppel-Zetteln zerstört wird. Danke, Wikiacc (≈) 02:35, 4 November 2008 (EET)

Hello Marc! I have seen the problems with Faïza Zouaoui. She has made 2 or 3 records for a person...in the English Rodovid we have a method (en:Help:Merging): the person whose number is greater is deleted. After it is deleted, it should not be used again. It is very important that for ONE number there is only ONE person. (I can argue about this better in English than in German.) Also, a clean record counts in en:Rodovid Statistics, and a deleted record does not count. I have deleted almost all double records, and I wrote the method...it is better when double records are deleted.

[edit] Where's the code?

So I was looking through some old threads on wikitree, and found this one about a living/non-living attribute. I'd love to look into implementing this, but I can't find the page display code. Any idea where the code for displaying person pages resides? Rccarman 07:43, 22 November 2008 (EET)

[edit] Is it possible ?

Hello ! The messages on the "french localisation" are really not good. I have changed some words or sentences, but I can not enter in some pages ... For more details, see please my message to Baya, who has no time to answer ... http://engine.rodovid.org/wk/User_talk:Baya#Javascript_page Thank you ! Marc ROUSSEL - --Markus3 10:15, 23 November 2008 (EET)

Fine ! Thank you ! - Marc ROUSSEL - --Markus3 04:05, 24 November 2008 (EET)

[edit] Help

I have an other problem with the translation of a word in the title of the french person talk page. Exemple here : http://fr.rodovid.org/wk?title=Discution_personne:71061&action=edit The correct french word is "discussion" and not "discution". I changed yesterday the only page where I found this uncorrect formulation, but it don't work. See please http://engine.rodovid.org/wk?title=RdLanguageFr.php&diff=22198&oldid=22176.

Thank you ! Marc ROUSSEL - --Markus3 10:03, 25 November 2008 (EET)

And an other thing ... http://fr.rodovid.org/wk?title=MediaWiki:Recentchangestext&action=history that gives problem with {{statistics}}. Merci ! - Marc ROUSSEL - --Markus3 18:38, 25 November 2008 (EET)

[edit] New translation

Hi, I've added my note on Add_your_language page couple of days ago. What is the process of adding a new language after that? --Stutas 20:17, 27 November 2008 (EET)