Talk:GEDCOM Structures

Unknown GEDCOM Tags/Structures

Baya, has one page to discuss only about file import (GEDCOM) ? I will write here, ok!?
Today, when importing files in my sister account(drimello), I see some records with +/- YEAR and +/- "start year / end year" as a between or from/to... but this dates was imported to ext. info and not as year dates ! Need import any adjust for this date format ?
Is _AKA like as nick name ? Why don't import this field to NOTES ? Ex:

@I191@ INDI
1 NAME João /Gonçalves Zargo/
2 SURN Gonçalves Zargo
2 GIVN João
2 _AKA Capitão ...
1 SEX M
1 BIRT
2 DATE +/- 1380
2 PLAC Santarém, Portugal
1 DEAT
2 DATE +/- 1470
2 PLAC Funchal, Ilha da Madeira
1 _UID 7024868223DF484FA7EFBC2E5D5A05198A8E
1 FAMS @F101@
1 FAMC @F231@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 2 Apr 2001
3 TIME 01:41:43

• _AKA => Notes
• _UID => Indrefs --Baya 14:16, 20 March 2006 (EET)

• Do you see any about DATES format (year), too ?
  If I import file one more time I will be asked for BLANK (unknown) BIRT DATE of each person ? Morais 17:55, 21 March 2006 (EET)

• DATE +/- => DATE ABT --Baya 19:47, 21 March 2006 (EET)

about Name

Baya, today I was imported one new file costa.ged to ENGINE and _AKA continue as STRUCTURE ERROR and it not added in Notes... see it down...
Fields NICK and TITL was imported correctly, but _AKA (name: Costa), NPFX (Captain) and NSFX(last part of name: Jr = Júnior) don't imported...
Can you add the NSFX in end of name after surname... and the NPFX in the Notes ? Morais 04:43, 23 March 2006 (EET)

@I1@ INDI
1 NAME BENEDITO PEREIRA /COSTA/
2 GIVN BENEDITO PEREIRA
2 SURN COSTA
2 NICK BENE
2 _AKA COSTA
2 NPFX Cap
2 NSFX JR
1 TITL JR
1 SEX M
1 BIRT
2 DATE 17 JUN 1963
2 PLAC MOJI MIRIM,SãO PAULO,BRASIL
1 DSCR ALTO, MORENO, CALVO
1 BAPL
2 DATE 25 MAY 1991
2 PLAC MOJI GUAçU,SãO PAULO,BRASIL
1 ENDL
2 DATE 12 MAY 1992
2 TEMP SPAUL
1 FAMC @F2@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 18 MAR 2001
3 TIME 18:18:49

The field NICK is imported to OtherName (it's OK!!!) and not to Name.
Isn't wrong the description in this article ?
And the field _MARNM is skipped, no ? I already requested this field, but it don't exists in FORM. Why don't import this _MARNM to Notes too ? Morais 04:45, 23 March 2006 (EET)

• Sorry, I don't seen that _AKA is a subitem of name. Now NAME:_AKA -> notes. NAME:_MARN -> other surnames

• The name value is formed in the manner the name is normally spoken, with the given name and family name (surname) separated by slashes (/). (See <NAME_PERSONAL>, page 54.) Based on the dynamic nature or unknown compositions of naming conventions, it is difficult to provide more detailed name piece structure to handle every case. The NPFX, GIVN, NICK, SPFX, SURN, and NSFX tags are provided optionally for systems that cannot operate effectively with less structured information. For current future compatibility, all systems must construct their names based on the <NAME_PERSONAL> structure. Those using the optional name pieces should assume that few systems will process them, and most will not provide the name pieces. A <NAME_TYPE> is used to specify the particular variation that this name is. For example; if the name type is subordinate to the <NAME_PERSONAL> it could indicate that this name is a name taken at immigration or that it could be an ‘also known as’ name (see page 56.) Future GEDCOM releases (6.0 or later) will likely apply a very different strategy to resolve this problem, possibly using a sophisticated parser and a name-knowledge database. - Into your example NPFX, NSFX are used in wrong. True way is

1 NAME Cap BENEDITO PEREIRA /COSTA/ Jr

but as I understand better is

1 NAME BENEDITO PEREIRA /COSTA/ Jr
1 TITL Captain

I think this must be changed mannually? --Baya 12:09, 23 March 2006 (EET)

• Ok, thanks!
  Your second unknow is correct and better for me, too!
  I will see the use of NSFX in other files of "PAF" for import...
  But Why _MARN is imported to OTHER SURNAMES ? In all cases I see FULL MARRIED NAME in this field and is better to import to NOTES, no ?Morais 00:04, 24 March 2006 (EET)

_MARN

It's not a documented gedcom field.... and this is a problem. I have seen gedcoms with only surnames there. I think, this must be seted manually too (((. So when I add this to surnames it is visible during import procedure and can be accordinaly tuned. --Baya 22:39, 25 March 2006 (EET)

about DATES

Baya, why exists the FROM/TO and BET/AND in combo-box of event type if only first is used ? As it is, each date is one event when everyone was registering a person... ?
Is not better remove the TO and AND from combo-box ? Morais 04:52, 23 March 2006 (EET)

• AND removed, TO can be used as single.

before X = '< X'
after X = '> X'
from X = '>= X'
to X = '<= X'
from X to Y = 'X <= ? <= Y'
between X and Y = 'X < ? < Y'

This is gedcom :) --Baya 17:33, 23 March 2006 (EET)

• Ok, gedcom is ok... :-) But in rodovid not exist fields to second YEARS or second full dates... and these is imported to extra info...
  Why keep this option in combo-box ? Is only TO similar to BEFORE and only FROM similar to AFTER no? :-)
  To register any data with pair FROM/TO or BETWEEN/AND format will need TWO EVENT RECORDS... !? Is it correct ?
  Is about similar to UNKNOWN or not complete ? Morais 00:19, 24 March 2006 (EET)

I recode it :) try select FROM or BETWEEN :) --Baya 22:35, 25 March 2006 (EET)